This week on The Seller Community podcast from List Perfectly Clara and Doug chat with Casey Parris, RockstarFlipper. We learn how the RockstarFlipper started selling online and growing his business, about the content he creates for his popular YouTube channel, and much more!
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Transcript
Doug:
Welcome to The Seller Community Podcast from List Perfectly. This is season two, episode 30. So the guy we have on this week, we’ve been wanting to get on for quite a bit. He’s very well known in the seller community, a huge YouTube creator, a big seller resource, big List Perfectly user. We’ve got Casey Parris, the Rockstar Flipper. I’m sure you’ve heard of him, but I’ve known Casey for a while. Mostly from eBay Opens and you know, we wind up talking quickly in a hallway or in a corner at one of the events and just, you know, catching up on things like that. Happy to have him on. We’re gonna learn how Rockstar Flipper came to be, how he started selling online and growing his business, and about the content, he creates so much more. And you’re gonna learn some stuff. I think he revealed a couple of things here that he hasn’t talked about before or talked about in a while, but we’re excited to have Casey Rockstar Flipper on the show.
Doug:
List Perfectly is sponsoring a couple of seller events this year. eBay Open is online, not in person, but first of all, we’ve got FlipCon coming up. Flip Con 2022, which is hosted by Phoenix Resale and Hairy Tornado. So FlipCon 2022 is on August 24th and August 25th in Charlotte, North Carolina. You’ll be able to hang out with Phoenix Resale and Hairy Tornado in person. Other speakers include American Arbitrage Dealing with Dalton, Profit Monsters, Hustle at Home Mom, Hustlin Hooks, Reezy Resells, Kat the Nurse Flipper, Commonwealth Picker, and more. Tickets are on sale now. Five hours of panels, three catered meals, and more. List Perfectly is the headline sponsor and we’ll be there. So FlipCon 2022, for more information on that, you can go to flipcon.net. So FlipCon is on the East Coast.
Doug:
For you West Coast peeps we’ve also got the return of BOSS Reseller Remix. List Perfectly is sponsoring that as well, a popular event put on by Katy Zilverberg and Vikki Eagan, and Theresa Cox. Las Vegas, October 10th, through the 13th, tickets are on sale at resellerremix.com. Some of the speakers there include of course, Katie and Vikki, and the Ralli Roots, Hairy Tornado, Ken, the Hustle Bee, Trish Glenn, Super Sale Trish, Casey Rockstar Flipper, Wade Coggins of Wades Ventures, Danni Ackerman, The Niche Lady and much more.
Doug:
So again, List Perfectly is happy to sponsor those two events. One on the East Coast, Flip Con. One on the West Coast BOSS Reseller Remix. All those sellers will be there. Great place to network. List Perfectly will be there as well.
Doug:
We’re joined today by Casey Paris, Rockstar Flipper, a very well-known YouTube star, rising TikTok star, growing your audience on there, but you know, likely you’ve heard of him. Great member of the seller community helps a lot of people, has been selling for a long time, but we will let him tell us all about that, but welcome to the show, Casey. Thanks for taking the time.
Casey:
Hey, thanks a lot, Doug. Good to be here. Finally made it on and welcome everybody. Thanks for joining us.
Clara:
Thank you for being here, Casey. We’re so happy to interview you and share more of your journey and your story with our incredible community. Having said that, Casey, how did you come up with the name Rockstar Flipper, please? <Laugh>
Casey:
That’s actually a really good question. And I don’t think anybody’s asked me that in quite some time. So the Rockstar Flipper channel was created in 2000 late, 2014, beginning of 15. And before that as a seller, I was just trying to come up with names and originally the name of the channel, a lot of people will know this was Small Business Millionaire. Oh. And so like I had the goal like I’m gonna be a millionaire through running a small business and I wanna help other people. And that was the name. And then after, you know, the rise of the whole YouTube, YouTube became kind of big around 2015. There were just a ton of other people in other niches with all these similar names. And every time you’d search for me, you couldn’t find me. And I was like, I gotta come up with a new name.
Casey:
And this name was created around three o’clock in the morning. <Laugh> I was, I had 10 internet tabs open with, you know, like name generators, business generators. And I was just clicking on like top words and, and search and algorithm and SEO and, and the word rockstar just kept coming back. And I was like, well, I flip stuff. And I didn’t want to be like, you know, Rockstar Clothing or Rockstar Electronics, cuz I sell everything basically. Yeah. So I was like, man, I’m what do I do? I’m a flipper, I flip stuff. And so I just kind of put it together on paper. I had a whole bunch, you know, written down like 30 or 40, but that’s the one that I settled on and I checked Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, everything that was around at the time. And it was available on every single site. And I was like, that’s it. I gotta get it. That’s how it came to be.
Doug:
It stuck. Still have that piece of paper with all the old variations?
Casey:
You know, I bet I could dig it out. Cuz I had all those little mini notebooks and they’re on my desk actually. And I have like eight or nine of ’em. I’ve always been old school to write everything down, ideas. So it probably is in there. If I find it, I’ll take a picture of it and I’ll post it on social media and tag Doug on it.
Doug:
<Laugh> <laugh> that would be cool to see…
Clara:
That would be awesome!
Doug:
I’ve known you for a while and I’ve known you as an online seller. What did you do before you started selling online?
Casey:
So I moved to Florida. I’m originally from Baltimore when I was 20 years old, which was 2005. And I moved to Florida because my parents retired here and I didn’t want to stay, even though all my family and friends at the time were in Maryland, I just wanted something new. So I worked a job as a teenager in high school for Chili’s, it’s the only actual job that I had. Yeah. I worked, I worked in a, to-go window in a mall in Chili’s and my job was to basically answer phone calls from all the stores in the mall and then they would order food and I would deliver it to ’em. Wow. And so that was my high school job. That’s how I paid for my two years of college. That’s how I paid for my car.
Casey:
That’s how I paid for all that stuff. And then when I moved to Florida, of course, I didn’t have that job. Moved in with my parents, 20 years old, no job, no money, no nothing basically. And I was a big fan of Craigslist and circa 2005 Craigslist did not have a for-sale section. And I don’t know the people. The people that listen to this podcast or, or are in this community, of them may remember what they had was just one box for everything. There was no clothing, electronics or furniture. Oh, it didn’t exist. So whatever it was you were selling or asking for was just, people had to scroll forever and ever. But yeah, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. And so I would look on Craigslist all the time and see stuff that I knew was underpriced like already underpriced. And I would negotiate even more. I’ve always been good at making deals, so I would just get a hold of them and start asking like, Hey, I saw you had such and such for $60. You know, it’s been up, I’ve seen it up for a week. I got really good at looking at the dates and figuring out like they’ve had this for sale for two weeks, for a month. I’ll give you 40 bucks. And so I would buy stuff cheap and then I would put it right back on Craigslist with better pictures, better descriptions. And, and it’s funny that we say that because full circle all the way around to 2022 and how do people sell stuff, better pictures, better listings, better everything. So I guess you could call it pioneering in 2005, but <laugh> that’s what I did.
Casey:
Uh, my parents wanted me to get a job. They begged me to get a job. I refused and I was buying and selling a couple of items a day. And all of a sudden I’m making 4, 5, 600 bucks a week. And I realized, I couldn’t even make that. If I went to get a job at, you know, down here, we have a big Walmart distribution place. That was the job to have at the time, you know, 2005, it was $10 an hour plus benefits. And my parents wanted me to have that job cuz they’re like, oh, you can get benefits. And I was like, mom, that’s all week long in a warehouse, $400. I was making more than that flipping stuff on Craigslist. And they saw it and they let me go with it cuz you know, I had to live with them for a couple of years getting, you know, my, my feet under me in Florida. So that’s how I did it. And I just would be on Craigslist day and night, all day long, all night long. Emailing a hundred people just trying to get three or four deals. And, and that’s where I started. And, if you think back 17 years ago, to make five or $600 a week as a 20-year-old was amazing.
Clara:
That’s a lot.
Casey:
Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Doug:
And optimizing Craigslist listings. That’s pretty interesting.
Casey:
I probably, at one point, could have started a business, teaching other people how to use Craigslist. It was insane. People would call me all the time. I see you have a hundred items on Craigslist. How do you do it? How do you do it? <Laugh>
Doug:
<Laugh>. And so, and when you were at Chili’s, how was your flare level?
Casey:
Oh yeah. <Laugh> so yeah, I had that job. I started that job when I was 16, cuz I was like, okay, I’m 16. I’m gonna drive. I need a car. And the law in Maryland was you couldn’t even be a server unless you were 18. Okay. And you couldn’t serve alcohol or be in the kitchen or in the front because they served alcohol. So I only could work in the, to-go window that faced the food court. Okay. So they couldn’t serve alcohol out of that. All we could do is serve normal. People would come in for lunch and get some boneless wings and a Coke or whatever. So that’s all I did was hand food out the window. Or if the store called and said, Hey, it’s Bass Pro Shop. We need four orders of wings and four Cokes. I’d get the bags altogether, get their drink tray and walk it down to ’em for tips. But when I worked there, it was like $8 an hour, but I made some nights, a hundred bucks in tips. Just walking food up and down and no flaring and no serving. I wish <laugh>
Clara:
I love it. That’s a great story to share. So, Casey, you’re known mainly okay on eBay and Amazon. Very well known, but what, where else, what other platforms do you use to sell, please?
Casey:
Yeah, so right before we started recording this, I let Doug and Clara know, I just started on Mercari for the first time. I’ve had an account, but I never sold on there because two years ago I started my wholesale Shopify, which is about when everybody started on Mercari probably two, three years ago, it got popular. I didn’t, I went the wholesale route in my Shopify store. So I really didn’t have a lot of time with Mercari. And also two, three years ago, a little something called List Perfectly didn’t really exist <laugh> so it was just in the beginning stages. So now that we have List Perfectly and I have a little bit more time right now I’ve put some stuff kind of on autopilot. I decided to start Mercari. So just started that this week actually listing, I told him I got a couple of hundred listings up.
Casey:
If you go to my Mercari, I think it’s under Rockstar Flipper, shameless plug. But I sold a few items. The first few items sold out this week. And so I’m excited to get about 2200 items between eBay and Amazon right now. So we’re just gonna cross post for a couple of weeks and see how this Mercari thing turns out. But yeah, eBay, and Amazon are two bigger ones, Mercari just getting started. And then obviously I think a lot of people that watch or follow me know that I sell a lot of inventory. I supply a lot of the community with wholesale inventory, either directly through my Shopify channel where I put up stuff that I have in-house physically own or we’ve partnered with Haulsale now also on the website there that all of the community, if they have inventory, they want to sell, they can put it up and we sell it in boxes or lots. Yeah. There are over 500 lots available there at any given time. So, oh yeah. Wholesale is a big passion of mine. I love just buying and selling bigger lots. I’ve always liked the minute I learned how to do it. The minute I did it, I fell in love with wholesale.
Clara:
Yeah. I always see your pictures of when you buy semis, loads of semis, you know, and like I admire that from you. I don’t have it in me. Incredible. I love that. That you love it and you can help. Not only yourself but other sellers.
Casey:
I know, I think it’s a love-hate cuz you said it, you don’t have it in you and, and for there’s sometimes that I don’t have it in me where I know there are five or six pallets landing and I’m like, Ugh, like growing. But then I realize I’m like, well I bought it so cheap. I just gotta get it done and the money and the, and the profit and, and it is work. Don’t get me wrong. It’s a lot of work. Like we, we have storage units and we unload and bring them back and box them up. And some days I’m packing and boxing 20, 30 boxes. But I do, I love it. I love the sales. I love that. You know, the emails when I put it out, people are really responsive. So I really love that part of it.
Doug:
I love it, I remember a bunch of remote controls, way back.
Casey:
Yes. 25,000 remotes are still in the storage unit right now. Wow.
Clara:
Wow. <Laugh>
Casey:
Yep. We sell ’em every day
Doug:
Associated with your name is YouTuber, YouTube. You’re a well-known YouTuber. When and how did you get started on YouTube? What was that little spark?
Casey:
Yeah, two thousand, end of 2014. I created the channel because I started to learn about drones. I love drones. <Laugh> I fly them all over. Yeah. I like a hobby. Yeah. I mean I have one actually right under my desk and I flew, 2014 was the beginning of the drone age. The very first clunky drones came out and I got one fiance who was filming me on our back porch, learning how to take off and fly it. And I didn’t realize like, oh, this thing’s gonna go straight up into the ceiling fan. I have a video of that. It was posted. And I’m like, I’m gonna make a YouTube channel covering all this stuff. And I created the channel, no name. When you have a brand new YouTube channel, they don’t give you something like youtube.com/casey. It’s just youtube.com/123456. So I filmed a few videos.
Casey:
And I was like, this sucks. <Laugh> like, I don’t wanna film this. I, and then I was sitting around and people were, people always asked me what I did for a living. Like, how do you make money? What do you do? Yeah. And by this time I’d been reselling for 10 years and I didn’t make the money I make now, but I made pretty good money. I would always write like 20-page emails trying to explain to them what I did. And I was like, Jesus, this is really hard. So one day I made a video for someone, a friend, somebody that lived in another state and I was like, look, I’m gonna make this video. Back then there was no way to like send the video. He’s like, can you put it on a memory card and mail it to me or something I’m like, this is, this is ridiculous.
Casey:
And if we, if we remember YouTube really got it, it started in like 2007, 2008, but nobody, Google really didn’t take it over until years later. So yeah, I told ’em. I said, Hey, I got this YouTube channel. It’s about stupid drones. I don’t do anything. I’m gonna upload the video for you on YouTube. You just watched it on YouTube. I didn’t realize that you could upload it privately and not publicly <laugh>. So I uploaded it. It was public. And he watched it a few times and I saw, you know, that night it had four views, five views, whatever it amounted to and I’m like, oh, he’s watched it a couple of times. I watched it once. Hey, whatever. I woke up the next day and it had like 180 views.
Clara:
Wow.
Casey:
Yeah. Google’s organic algorithm. That search one, I remember what the video is about. People can still go to my channel right now. And you can sort a YouTuber’s videos by older videos that they’ve ever uploaded. You’ll see the drone videos too. Oh yeah. And so what had happened was that particular video, that search term people were already searching for on Google. And of course, this is, you know, whatever, seven years ago. So there wasn’t as much competition. And it just happened to pop up in the algorithm and people started watching it and I was like, holy crap, that’s ridiculous. It was about websites and Facebook pages for business, like having a presence on Facebook and scanning, scanning your documents, like your receipts, when you would buy stuff into your iPhone, and building email marketing. It was the very first time I figured out how to, you know, put together emails for customers and email marketing.
Casey:
And so if you go back and search my channels, you’ll see those videos, they just got a bunch of views. And I was like, wow, that’s crazy. So he asked me a few more things and I, I called him and I said, this thing got crazy, you know, views. And he’s like, well, here’s a few more topics that I would want to know about that I searched for. And so I put ’em up and they started getting views. And so that’s, that’s how it went. And in fact, two of my oldest eight videos I’m looking at ’em now have 88,000 views and 55,000 views.
Clara:
That’s insane.
Casey:
<Laugh> yep. One about QuickBooks and one about Facebook marketing.
Clara:
Wow. That’s just amazing. Now, Casey, what kind of content can I find on your YouTube channel?
Casey:
Oh my goodness. Everything. So the two biggest things, I, I feel like I’m really good at covering anything. That’s news updates related feature changes whatever eBay does there quarterly, or, you know, twice a year, seller updates always cover those. They just did a promoted listing change. Anything that you’ll find from any platform that’s news or, or stuff that you really have to know. That’s like my number one thing every morning, my routine is to look up the news. What happened to eBay today? What happened to their stock? What happened to their earnings call? What happened to their seller dashboard? What the community forum, boards, everything for eBay, for, yeah. Mercari for whatever the platforms are. The second thing that I really like to do is like what people are selling in the community.
Casey:
I mean, we do haul videos, which is showing stuff that I bought, stuff that I’ve sold. What’s available. I do videos about what other people have sold. I’ve done videos about some of the biggest sellers in the community and like how they get their merchandise, just things that can help other sellers get ideas. Maybe you’re not gonna sell what I sell, but you can get an idea from it. You can get a category or a niche. So those are like two of my biggest pieces of content. The other piece of content that I have is I work actively with three companies that do three separate things for the reseller community. My biggest is obviously List Perfectly. So we do videos for you guys for updates that you put out for how to use List Perfectly for questions that people might have about List Perfectly, whatever, same story, whatever news you guys have, or whatever is going on, that’s important with that or, or you know, the importance of cross-listing, like why it’s important, all that, you know, stuff. We work of course with My Reseller Genie for accounting, accounting has been a big, big thing lately. And then Mark Tew, the Not Your Dad’s CPA for his accounting services. So,I do work, you know, I have three, basically three sponsors of the channel. So we make content for that as much as possible to keep everybody up to date and make sure they’re using the best tools to make money.
Doug:
So, and you probably know this, I mean, when I used to be at eBay, so I would fly in for the seller updates and we would have what was called the war room. And so yeah, we would pay attention. We would watch your videos get watched there.
Casey:
I did, I did hear some people saying, I, in fact, I was sent maybe a text, one time by people at eBay with a laptop open and I could see my YouTube channel on the laptop open. I was like, oh God, <laugh>
Doug:
I think I was standing next to that person in that room, so, well, you know, and as you said, that’s a big part of it is like, that’s the part of the beauty of the seller community and yeah, you do you know, that’s one of the things that you do well. Okay, so I’m gonna ask this question and then I need you to speak slowly, cuz I’m gonna take notes. Any advice for aspiring YouTubers?
Casey:
Advice for aspiring YouTubers? I guess tip number one is to love it. Okay. If you don’t like uploading content and making videos, it can become a real job, a real drag. And even for me, sometimes I’m like, oh, like there’s a seller update. It just came out. I gotta make this video right now. And I don’t feel like it and I don’t wanna do it, but I do love putting the videos out. I love the comments. I love the engagement for the most part <laugh> so yeah, if you don’t love it, don’t do it. But if you love it, go for it, like all in, just go for it. That’s tip number two, if you don’t just put up the content, you never will. I have so many people that are like, I want to put out content. I wanna do this. Yeah. I just can’t get the video up.
Casey:
And they say it to me for a month, two months. And I’m like, you just gotta do it and no one’s gonna look like Tom Cruise in your first video on YouTube. I haven’t in seven years. So just put it out there. We’re not, we’re not Hollywood moviemakers. We’re content creators. We’re informational. We’re business. That’s not our goal. We’re not Casey Neistat, we’re not, you know, any of that type of thing. So yeah, I would just say, just go for it. Write down topics that you want to cover and look them up on YouTube. Find other people that do it and, and learn from their titles. Learn from their thumbnails, learn from their hashtags, learn from everything. We’re not reinventing the wheel. You’re not gonna create something on YouTube that we haven’t already seen or mostly haven’t seen. So just do it in your own way.
Casey:
Be unique and put the information out there in your own way. Get people to know you for how you do things, cuz everyone’s gonna do seller updates. Everyone’s going to do hauls. Everyone’s going to do this or that, it has to be done where people remember you to be memorable, be, be unique. So those are like the three big ones for, for people that wanna monetize a YouTube channel, make sure you’re family-friendly, make sure you’re not dropping, you know, F-bombs everywhere. Your videos will get taken down. They’ll get demonetized and people won’t watch you. You’ll get cut off. You’ll ostracize half the community for that. And finally, the last thing is don’t worry. If you mess up videos, you can edit them. I promise you. None of the videos you watch of mine were probably done in one cut <laugh> I assure you. I say stuff all the time and I’m like, nope, hit the off button, hit the on button again. So it doesn’t have to be perfect. That’s the joy of YouTube. You can cut it.
Doug:
So one quick little follow-up. So I’m curious. So when you get to your level and on the internet and on YouTube, in particular, negativity and drama are part of the game, how do you deal with that?
Casey:
Yeah, it’s tough. And I’m gonna be honest with you guys. If I knew then what I knew now I’d probably do a lot of things differently, but it’s a learning curve. So no matter how friendly you are, no matter how helpful there’s always gonna be people that are one of two negatives. They’re either trolls that are just there to just be a troll. They’re just gonna say whatever they’re gonna say. It doesn’t matter. And responding to them is just a waste of your time because it doesn’t matter how you respond to them. You could be the nicest person in the world. It just doesn’t matter. The second one is you’re gonna get people who honestly disagree with you. They don’t agree with promoted listings. They don’t agree with auctions. They don’t agree with List Perfectly. They don’t agree with whatever it is. And that’s okay too because everyone runs their business differently or runs it the way that they see fit. And I think the biggest mistake that I made was that I would always try to get people to see it, how I did it, and not realize that a lot of people are different. there’s more than one way to the finish line. And I’ve gotten a lot better about that more recently where it’s like, I don’t have to agree with how somebody’s running their business, but if it works for them, it is pointless to argue with them.
Clara:
Great answer. That’s a great answer. What an evolution Casey. Now, since we’re talking about your YouTube channel, I wanna know what is your most popular video on your YouTube channel?
Casey:
So that’s funny. So we can sort on YouTube again, if you click my channel and click the video you can hit sort by most popular. My number one watched the video was actually about three years ago, Amazon offered a program to drivers, you know, all the blue, Amazon Prime vans. Yeah. So people actually are third parties that run that they’re not Amazon employees. Most of them are contractors and they will get five vans or 10 vans. And then they hire drivers. Well, Amazon was offering $300,000 to contractors. This was per year, which is great to drive a van. And your salary was basically 300 grand. You had to pay the driver, pay the maintenance, pay the gas, pay all that stuff. But people were like, wow, I’m gonna get $300,000. And all I gotta do is, and then I can get 10 vans. And, and so that was a huge story. And I put it out there. Yeah. In fact, several people in my audience started driving for Amazon or started their own businesses because of that video. I had a few people come back to me. That video has half a mil over half a million views on that one.
Clara:
Insane. Yep.
Casey:
<Laugh> And then yeah, the second one, shockingly enough, is how to buy wholesale and liquidation pallets. It was a behind-the-scenes look at yeah. Almost 400,000 views on that. One of my old warehouses with tons of pallets. So yeah. Wholesale is pretty popular.
Clara:
Nice. Nice. I have to admit, I think I watched that one. Casey <laugh>
Casey:
Yep. Yeah.
Doug:
I’ve seen that one too.
Clara:
Yes. I remember your old warehouse. Yes.
Casey:
God, that place
Clara:
<Laugh> Now do, does your new warehouse, did you put the AC as you wanted and your office, as you wanted?
Casey:
Yeah, so I, the old, yeah, the old warehouse I had, I rented from a friend that owned a complex of buildings, but that one was detached with no AC. So it was miserable. For example, today in Florida feels like 112 degrees. You can imagine what it would be like working in that warehouse. And when I moved, cuz I did live 10 minutes from it, but now I moved. And so I’m like 40 minutes. So that was all the signs of, I gotta get rid of this. So when we moved to the new area, we got indoor climate-controlled storage units for all the inventory. And then with the bigger house and the extra garage space, everything gets delivered to the storage unit. And then on Monday we go get, say six boxes. We bring them to the extra spot in the garage and then that’s our stuff to work on during the week that we can bring into the house. So it doesn’t overwhelm the house. Once we get through those six, eight boxes, they’re all listed, they’re put away, they’re stored or they’re shipped out. Then we go get more. And so everything’s in climate control and it’s two minutes down the road. Yeah. So that’s our new setup and it’s fantastic. I love it. And we have AC inside the storage units <laugh>
Clara:
I love, and I saw in your garage, in your house, you put those ceiling racks. I have the same ones to maximize the space. Great call Casey. Great call.
Casey:
Work smarter. Not harder.
Doug:
That’s right. So another great resource is your Facebook group. Clara and I are members there, a bunch of LP employees and users are members there. So tell us about that.
Casey:
Yeah, the Facebook group. So when I started, I had a Facebook business page to start, you know, getting away from my personal side. So people could go and like, and file the page. But I realized on the business, on Facebook business pages, one of the things that it really lacks is a community like a, like yeah, a discussion. Right? And so the only thing, you know, I thought about a website in a forum board, but it seemed really old school to me like AOL old school. So I was like, you know, in 2015, 2016, this is the peak of Facebook. I mean, Facebook is really blowing up. There was no TikTok and Instagram was newer. I had an Instagram, but I didn’t really use it that much. And Instagram and Twitter at the same time were not in this discussion.
Casey:
So I’m like, I’m gonna create a group. And I knew that I had just from YouTube, you know, at the time I probably had 30, 40,000 subscribers. I said, man, if I tell everybody to join this group, I’m gonna have a few hundred members overnight and sure enough, the first week we got to 1,000, one week. And yeah. So all of a sudden we’re in the group and I’m like, guys, if you have any questions, if there’s anything that’s going on or anything that needs to be updated or discussed, please post it here. I do not require approval for any posts. Now we have rules like any group and I’ll watch everything. And the community’s really good at reporting stuff. That’s no good or violates rules or whatever, but anybody can post anything. Then we can have discussions and topics about it.
Casey:
The group’s up to 125,000 members, which is incredible. I couldn’t imagine 125,000 people in one place ever. And this is the other great thing about the group. I manually approve members every day. And so I vet like it if there are people that are just fake accounts, obvious fake accounts or bots or whatever, 98% of ’em I get. And so the group is actually vetted for real members, real sellers, real people that have some form of interest in thrifting or reselling or, or what have you. And it’s for the most part, I know it has sometimes a bad reputation, but when you put 125,000 people in the same place, that’s right. There are things that happen. It’s been amazing. I would say it’s been 95% positive, you know, few negatives, but it, people talk about everything in there. There are threads with thousands of comments and discussions, and we link List Perfectly. And we link eBay updates. Anything that anybody wants to see, there’s a feature that thank God, Facebook updated. There is a featured section of Facebook groups. Now it used to be, you could pin it to the top. Yeah. But you could only pin one post at a time to the top. Now there’s a feature almost like a slidable thing, a Rolodex. And now all the featured stories, the news, anybody can click that and just scroll through and see everything that they wanna see links to thermal printers or links to, you know, discount codes or whatever it is. So Facebook groups are fantastic if you, whether you’re a reseller or not. If you have a niche or any topic, if you’re a video gamer or a crafter, create a group and get a community, get a discussion going. It’s incredible.
Clara:
Casey, you forgot to mention, what’s the name of your amazing beautiful group?
Casey:
<Laugh> the group is called Thrift Reseller World. So it was originally Thrifted World, but I realized it should encompass all resellers. So I added that in Thrift Reseller World.
Clara:
Okay. So now I wanna know at what part do you remember what year? Okay. On your reselling journey, you were like, okay, I love reselling, but now I wanna get into actual coaching and help others, you know, more than, okay. I got to help myself. Now I’m gonna dedicate myself to helping others.
Casey:
Yeah. So the YouTube channel in 2015 was a lot of work for me. And a lot of learning, I would put up videos and I was really bad. Like people would have other follow-up questions. And I was like, okay, I’ll make a video about that. And so then I would make another, and I was spending all my time just making videos. And I was like, man, I really like, I realize these people have a lot of questions. Some people just have one or two, but some people really don’t know anything and need this step by step. So I spent the whole first year until 2016, just really cranking out content. And sometime in the middle of 16 somebody did actually ask me, they’re like, you should create a step by step, a course. And it started, I started getting more and more messages and questions about that.
Casey:
And I was like, okay, by the end of this year, step by step by New Year’s of 2017, I’m gonna come out with something. And so my very first one was the New Year’s day release, 2017. I put together a whole, like from start to finish one through 50 videos of how to sell on eBay, create an account customizing, you know, making your thing, your store look good how to do good descriptions, good titles, good, everything, each video. And so that was the very first time and people loved it. People were like, you know, I know how to do 40 of these, but I didn’t know how to do the other 10. So this was fantastic. And each video, whether it was five minutes, or 10 minutes, you could skip ahead. It was almost like a DVD. You could skip through the section. Yeah. And so that was the first one.
Casey:
Yeah. New Year’s of 2017. And every year, since then I’ve come out with updated ones. I put together guides, I put together price lists. I put together spreadsheets and videos. Last year I recorded 150 videos. So because now I’m, they’ll get 50 eBay videos, 40 Amazon videos, 30 how to use List Perfectly videos, whatever it is. It’s all included in that. So if they have questions after going through all that, they also get access to a separate email that I have. You can email that box. And I know that they only got that email because they bought them or signed up or, or got a part of that. So. Yep. And that’s the first thing I answer every single morning is that email box.
Doug:
So let’s shift over to your wholesale lots. How, and when did you get into that?
Casey:
I would say around 2017 to 2018, a lot of thrift stores in Florida started slowly creeping prices up. And another one of my suppliers was pawn shops and pawn shops started to get, yeah, I did a lot of pawn shop shopping. It was great. The electronics were amazing. Video games were amazing.
Clara:
Pawn shops were, I mean, I don’t know how it is now. Okay. But they were amazing.
Casey:
Yeah. They were. Oh yeah. They were amazing. Yeah. So now what happened? At least in Florida, a lot of my deals came from the mom-and-pop shops that had more flexibility, but they got bought out by corporate stores. And when the corporate stores take over, they don’t give you as many deals. They raise their prices, they have overhead. And so my deals dried up and I was like, I can’t keep going to pawn shops. Thrift stores are getting high. I realized that driving around the store to store, to store. If I only came out with four or five items and I spent an hour in the store and then 30 minutes driving around and gas and I’m like, this is just not, it’s not scalable one, but it’s also just, I’m not making the money that I think I’m making mm-hmm <affirmative> cause I’m spending it all.
Casey:
And my time is valuable. Your time is the one thing you can’t duplicate. So I was like, I need to start buying stuff and getting it delivered to my door. So the first thing I did like everyone else is I went to Google and I was like wholesale, lots wholesale boxes. I have purchased from every company in the wholesale world. If you can name it, I have probably bought it from them. B Stock, BlueLots, 888, Box Box. You name it. I bought from all of them and I gotta be honest. There’s some good stuff. Liquidations.Com. There’s some junk, there’s both sides of it. And it became a crap shoot because I could buy from one of ’em and get a great box and then next week buy it. And it’s trash. That would cost me all my profit from the first one. I was like, man, this is like not working like it’s okay, but this isn’t gonna be sustainable.
Casey:
So I went back to all the thrift stores in the pawn shops, Uhhuh. And this is where I shine. I would say, this is probably my number one business skill that I am amazing at. I went into all of ’em and I was like, I know you have more merchandise. I know that what you have outside in the store is not everything. And I know that because everything I have for sale is not everything I have. It’s all stuffed in my garage right now. So sure enough, they were all like, yeah, what, what are you interested in? And I would tell ’em video games or this or that. And they would take me in the back room or the manager would say, let me get your phone number. And the next stuff that comes in, I’ll call you. And sometimes they wouldn’t, but a lot of times they would, and I would start getting calls like, Hey, we have 50 video games. Do you wanna come to take a look? Now I’ve got first dibs on it. They’d usually cut me a deal. I was picking up 40-50 items. I knew that it was worth my drive, the conversation I had on eBay with a guy one time everyone remembers this story. He has 24,000 neckties for sale on individual listings. All right. And he lives in a very popular town called Lake Travis, Texas. It’s a very wealthy well-to-do area. I Googled it. And there were a few thrift stores and Goodwills and whatnot. But I said, there’s no way he bought 24,000 neckties, thrifting in Lake Travis, Texas. It’s just not happening. So I messaged him on eBay. I bought a tie from him and I messaged him and I said, Hey, appreciate your ties. Love your ties. I have a question. If you don’t wanna an answer fine, I don’t want your sources, but tell me I’m wrong.
Casey:
You’re buying these in bulk. And he was nice enough to answer. And he was like, yes, we have deals with every store in town. He knew that I was in Florida. He knew that I wasn’t gonna go take his connections. So he was cool about it and sure enough, he goes to every thrift store once a week and they sell him 50 to a hundred ties out the back door. And it’s, not out the back door, like illegal. Like they just, before they even put it on the shelf, like he, exactly. And so that was the lesson I learned in the business of networking and asking for more. There’s an old sales tactic as to, you know, always ask, what else do you need? We’re selling you popcorn. Do you need a soda with that? Mcdonald’s, would you like fries with that?
Casey:
It’s always asking what else. And that’s where I shine. Like, what else have you got going on? Hey, I appreciate you selling me that box of clothes. What else have you got? Yeah. Yeah. And so that’s what I do to everyone. And now what I’ve parlayed into is there are 125,000 people in my group and on YouTube and all over the community that is always saying, Hey, I wanna sell off all my women’s clothes or all my men’s clothes, or I want to get outta shoes and go to hard goods. I’ll buy it. What do you get <laugh>? And so that’s how we get a ton of inventory and it’s just, you know, parlayed into people now contacting me. I don’t even have to go out to people anymore. They contacted me. So the networking, the asking for more, the worst somebody can say is odd. You know, I don’t really have anything going on right now. Okay. Let me know if you do. And that, that’s what I’ve done. And that’s, that’s where I shine in business and, and how I’ve been able to get so much merchandise. There’s so much merchandise coming in. I couldn’t possibly buy it all at all, ever.
Clara:
Thank you for bringing that up. So, do you agree with us that eCommerce is big enough for all of us?
Casey:
Yes. COVID was like the lighter fluid on it. You know, people were saying, okay, used, used merchandise is gonna go from 8 billion to 18 billion to 25 billion. And then it went to 8 million trillion overnight, but it’s still growing. It. Isn’t stopped with the pending economic situation, a word that we all know used. Merchandise. People are gonna buy it. They’re gonna wanna save money. They’re gonna want deals. They’re gonna wanna make their money go further. So if you’ve got used stuff, there’s no reason why you can’t sell it. And I know people right now are saying, you know, people aren’t spending money. It’s the summer slowdown. I mean, that’s part of it. The economy is part of it, but the summer slowdown will end, you know, the back to school and the fourth quarter will come and sales will come back and, and things will get better. It may take some time, but stock up, save your money, stock up on inventory, and put your money towards cheap inventory, which is what I’m doing right now. And you’ll have, you know, inventory for the fourth quarter. You’ll be able to make good sales, and you might not do well right now, but you can make up four and fourth quarters. No doubt.
Clara:
That’s a great answer. I couldn’t agree more. Casey. I wanna talk about some numbers real quick. What would you say okay, is your most amazing flip, please?
Casey:
Okay. Two of them. So individual single items this one was way back in the day. And to this day I haven’t really beat it. We bought a $30 fire truck, bell. It’s one of those giant bronze 90-pound fire truck bells off the front of a…
Clara:
Heavy ones.
Casey:
Mm-Hmm 1930s fire truck. It was dated. And it was from New Jersey. I actually bought it from a guy that had a big shed barn. This was like straight out of American Pickers. Yeah. He had a whole bunch of stuff. We ended up spending a couple of thousand bucks over a couple of days with him. But the fire truck bell was the one that was $30. And he was like, the reason I’m selling is so cheap is cuz no one can pick it up. No one can carry it. No one knows what to do with it. And I took it and my friend at the time who was like, sort of investing with me, he’s like, what the heck are we gonna do with this thing? <Laugh> and I’m like, good question. We’re gonna sell it on eBay. And he’s like, no way. I’m like, yes we are.
Casey:
So we put it on eBay and sure enough, a guy from New Jersey who was a firefighter bought it for 900 plus shipping, which I think came out to be almost a hundred dollars. And so after the fees, after everything, we made north of 700 bucks on it. Mm. So that was pretty cool. That was because it was really profitable and because it was just a super cool item. I wish somebody at the eBay headquarters could pull up. I know exactly what year it was. And yeah. And from my old account, like my personal account, I could pull up the record of that fire truck bell. Like it would be awesome to see it again,
Clara:
Doug make it happen.
Casey:
Doug make it happen. <Laugh> see what I might be able to make that happen. I’ll see what, and then as far as wholesale goes, when COVID hit the thrift stores, they couldn’t sell their clothes. Cuz they were closed. Nobody was open. Yeah. But they were still getting donations. So the store is completely full and basically, they had like their own storage units on property in the back. Well they were getting so many donations that filled up and they could not take any more donations. So they filled a, a semi truck, a 53 foot semi truck. They filled it and they called me, it was unsorted. Like, you know, the bags, people just take down to the store. I bought a 53 foot semi truck of, and, and there’s a whole 10 videos on my channel showing us that truck arriving. It took two days to empty the truck and sort, and then it took another two weeks for us to go through every bag. And
Clara:
There was, I saw your pictures. I remember your sweat. Oh man.
Casey:
We were dying and it was not, it was the middle of summer because COVID, yes, COVID hit in March or April. And by June, I think that was June or July. They called us. And they were like, we have three months of donations that we cannot process. I’m like, oh my God. And here people always ask me and I’m, I’m not afraid to say it. We paid 1500 bucks for that truck, but the shipping cost me 3000. Cause it came from, it came from Virginia or, or West Virginia. And yeah, let me, the answer is no, I would never do it again. <Laugh> cause that’s the next question. Yeah, we made a lot of money. Okay. So I was $4,500 out. I paid for a bunch of labor and boxes. I spent 11 or $12,000 all in, on expenses and we sold 60 grand in a couple of months. We made 40 thousand dollars in three months. So you’re talking about 15 grand a month in profit. Great. But the things that I saw inside of those bags, the things that I never wanna see again in my life, when you open unsorted, uncut, basically farm-fresh donations to a thrift store in Virginia in the mountains of Virginia. I can’t even tell the smells that I smelled. I would never do it again. I highly recommend doing it once in your life. <Laugh> but, don’t do it again.
Clara:
So if we have a therapist in the audience, okay. We have PTSD reselling trauma. Okay.
Casey:
<Laugh> it, it was, I mean we videoed hours and hours of video. We set up my phone on a tripod. Just recording us, going through bags. Yes. And about every 10 minutes, you’d hear it. Ew <laugh> <laugh> yeah. So some of that footage made it onto YouTube. If you search my channel for semi-trucks, it’s in one of the titles. Yeah. So that was a fun experience. We did make money, so it didn’t end badly, but it was just a lot of work, a lot of labor, and a lot of grossness <laugh>
Clara:
Rockstar Flipper.
Doug:
A changed man.
New Speaker:
<Laugh> I am. I’m very careful. Like now I ask myself, where did all these donations come from? Where has this been sitting behind your building for six months? Like what?
Clara:
Okay, so we’re going from Rockstar Flipper to Picky Flipper <laugh>
Casey:
Yeah, yeah, no kidding. Yeah, it was, it was, it was an experience for sure. If you haven’t seen those videos go watch ’em they’re fun entertainment.
Doug:
Well, you should see me at the bins. So I don’t think I could have gotten near that truck.
Casey:
I had a lot of experience with the bins. I have a lot of videos. I did stop at the bins a lot. Well, that was my first solution to not wanting to buy one thing at a time. Cause I was like, well, I go to the bins, I can get a whole cart full. And then the bins had a Gaylord, those the bundles, like in the back where they just, yeah. And so I bought one of those and brought it home. I think there are two or 3000 pieces in that. And it took us a couple of days to sort, we did very well on that. We paid 400 bucks or 500 bucks and we sold four or 5,000 out of it. But again, going through that, I remember there were a few questionable pieces in that. Yeah. That semi-truck was 48, essentially 48 Gaylords. Hundred thousand plus pieces. No doubt.
Clara:
That’s a great way to also buy lots, you know, with the, in the bins with Goodwill. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> I forgot about that. And yeah. I always wonder about those bins. If they were profitable. I was, I was always too picky on that, but no, incredible. Now how do you discover List Perfectly?
Casey:
Casey <laugh> so List Perfectly came to me about, I would say maybe two or three weeks before eBay Open of 2018. Was it 18?
Clara:
19, 19, 19.
Casey:
Okay. 19. Yeah. The last one before COVID yeah. Mm-Hmm <affirmative> yep. Okay. So 19. Okay. So we were all booked up. Everyone’s ready to go to eBay Open and you guys reached out to me. You actually reached out through Theresa. Yep. Theresa is the superstar that connects everyone. She’s got like the little black book of, of reselling. I swear she does. And she knows everybody. I know. And so Theresa messages me, calls me and we’re talking and she goes, Hey, what’s your schedule? Like I got these two ladies they have this cool product. I want you to take a look at it. And I was like, yeah, of course. You know, I’ll take a look. And so I don’t even know that I saw anything. I don’t think I saw screenshots or previews or anything before we got eBay open.
Casey:
And you guys had decided to go kind of at the last minute or after there was a chance for you to get a booth. So we ended up meeting in the hallway before the escalators, outside of the conference area on a couch, in a hallway, like leading up to the coffee area, you know? Yeah. There’s a Starbucks in that hallway of Mandalay right down there. And it was me and you and Amanda and I think Colleen might have been there with a couple of other people. And you basically pitched me on your business plan and this amazing idea sitting there in the hallway <laugh>
Clara:
And the true story is that we were so broke. I had only $1,500 left in the bank before LP went viral. I had no money to buy my ticket for eBay Open. So I had the money for one ticket. So that’s why I was there in the hallway and doing guerilla marketing, in the entrance hallway.
Casey:
But Clara and Amanda ripped off eBay out of a ticket, cuz they were too cheap to buy one. So they sat in the hallway outside of the conference area. Because when you go into Mandalay, if anybody has never been there, the convention center area, there’s a set of escalators that goes upstairs. And when you got upstairs is where they did like the ticket check or right before it downstairs. And they were literally 25 feet out in the hallway. <Laugh> like just before where you had to present your ticket to get in and I’m not gonna lie. I don’t know that I’ve ever told Claire this before, but after we talked with you guys and we went, we ended up going up into eBay Open. We were like, I wonder why they didn’t get a booth. And I was like, well, it’s kind of expensive.
Casey:
It’s a little pricey. And I was like, well, that makes sense. And we’re like, why are they just like in the hallway? Like, is this weird? Like all of us were like, does anyone else think this is odd? Like <laugh>. And, and I was like, I do, but I was like, you know what? It’s actually a really good idea. I was like, and we all had our doubts cuz we were like, is it gonna work? And I was like, I want it to work. I want them to succeed. Cuz it’s a good tool. I was like, but none of us knew or like, is it gonna work? Is it gonna work? And so yeah, that was our conversation.
Clara:
<Laugh> <laugh> what a great story. Thank you, Casey.
Casey:
Yeah. So that’s how we, that’s how we, List Perfectly now we’re three years later. And at the time LP had Theresa and I don’t even know that you guys had soft-launched with customers too.
Clara:
No, literally it was, you know, again, Theresa helping us as a community leader and two employees. That’s it, Amanda, myself. That was it.
Casey:
That was it. That was, that was the whole company, the whole shebang. I mean, I don’t, I don’t even know if you guys had that office that you have now. I don’t think you were in yet.
Clara:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Casey:
No. So they were working outta the house and that was, that was it.
Doug:
So how has List Perfectly changed your business?
Casey:
Two ways. And, and one is completely full, and transparent, List Perfectly is a sponsor and affiliate, of what I do. And, and a lot of other people, a ton of you guys have List Perfectly as affiliates, where you get paid for people that sign up, you know, and that’s the alternative to paying for a billboard or a radio ad or a TV ad. It’s social media, it’s marketing, it’s word of mouth. And that is the best way to build in right now. I would never, in a million years, pay for advertising like conventional. I would always go the route that Clara and Amanda went. So for me to be able to make money off of that is fantastic because let’s be honest. I have a big audience. So clearly I’ve been able to get a lot of people on List Perfectly, but the real side of how it’s changed the business, obviously I’m now using it for Mercari.
Casey:
You can use it for whatever platforms you sell on. All of the people that have signed up either through my group or through YouTube or through some of the other folks have been able to make more money. And this is old, if they succeed, you succeed. So when all those people go out and say, I just started using List Perfectly, I’m making more money. I’m on four platforms. Now the word of mouth spreads and it, them succeeding allows me to succeed. So that’s why marketing is how it is. And that’s why it’s so successful. Because if the tool works, everyone’s gonna come into the community and say it. And that’s what happens. It works. And everyone goes out there and goes, here it is. Here’s the video. Here’s the proof that makes it easy. You don’t have to sell this perfectly. You don’t have to convince people to, you know, as you need, you need, you just be like, here you go, try it out. And they give, you know, a 30% discount to give it a shot. And I would say all the people that try it that come through me are a big majority. I can’t remember the number. Clara told me once, but a huge majority stick with it because it works. Yeah. It sells itself.
Clara:
That’s right. Well, thank you for sharing that, you know that was the decision we had to make. Are we gonna put the money okay, on advertising or can we put the money back in our community? Mm-Hmm <affirmative> and let our resellers spread the word and invest in our community. That was very important. Thank you for bringing that up. Having been three years, with List Perfectly, you know, and, and you maximize our referral system, but what would you say is the most favorite feature of List Perfectly? Is it the referral system or is there something else that you really like about List Perfectly?
Casey:
I love the referral system <laugh> but no, but as far as the product, as far as the, the tool itself, you know, when you guys did the, when you added bulk, I mean the bulk thing to the, to the business and pro plan, everyone was dying for that. Like that was huge to be able to, to do multiple, you know, instead of click, click, click, click, and that’s where I would say my easiest conversation with people that have a simple plan to upgrade is you can do bulk you can do this so much faster on so many more platforms. And so to be able to take, you know, like I was talking to you guys before a couple of hundred listings from one platform to the next in a few days or a week is incredible. Cuz when you think about what it takes to, you know, duplicate those listings under normal circumstances, it’s forever.
Casey:
And that’s kind of the other thing. I think a lot of people like being able to create their listings internally and then just spreading it out from List Perfectly. I think that’s really, really popular in the community. And this is actually a good question that you asked me, cuz I’m gonna go out. And sometimes I do post about List Perfectly and I ask people like, Hey, if you are currently a List Perfectly customer what do you use the most? How many platforms, what I wanna go out and post something. Now that goes, what’s your favorite feature of List Perfectly <laugh> and get some more feedback. And that’s a great thing about our last question. Piggybacking people go in the community and talk about it. It’s like a conversation. So what better marketing than when a whole community is having a conversation and the background is your product.
Casey:
Like what was everyone talking about on that thread List Perfectly. List Perfectly. I mean, what, what does that old Doug might know from eBay days, but what does that marketing thing? People ask, why does McDonald’s have billboards because everyone knows what McDonald’s is. Right. And the theory is that it takes 16 times for you to see something. Is that the number?
Doug:
Something, something like that yeah.
Casey:
Yeah. Like 15 or 16 times for you to hear something, see something, or be told about something and then you become a customer. Yeah. So people are constantly seeing and hearing List Perfectly in the group, on Facebook, or on a YouTube channel. At some point, they’re gonna at least try it or go and dig more about it. So yeah. I think that’s one of the great things. The community, like you guys, picks the best way to advertise, like no doubt about it. <Laugh> but yeah, inside the community, I think the bulk crossposting is the most popular. And I would say the internal listings are probably a close second. That’s what I see. In the conversation all the time.
Doug:
This is a question that I love and I’m particularly interested to see your answer. So three adjectives that you would use to describe yourself.
Casey:
Yeah. So I saw this, so I read through the questions like, like I do and, and I, I generally know all of the answers to anything, you know, that I see in this, this is one that I didn’t know answer to. And I thought about writing down some answers and I did, and I was like, I’m gonna answer this on the fly. Cuz I wanted to be raw, like honest answers. So three adjectives, man, tenacious. Like I get outta my way, like I’m gonna do something, just get outta my way. Don’t stop. Like that. That is tenacious for sure. I don’t know the right adjective for this, but it is very detail-oriented, like observant. Yeah. I notice, I notice everything. I see everything. I, I remember stuff, I pay attention. Things will come. You know, I may not always have it right there, but it will come out eventually.
Casey:
And I’m like, yes, I know I saw that. I remember that. And the third one is analytical, and mathematical. I think everyone knows my numbers are bar none. What? I can fire out, rapid fire my spreadsheets, my accounting. I would put my accounting up against anybody regardless of the form of the way I know every dollar. I know where every penny goes. I know what stuff costs. I know the profit margins. My mathematical analytical mind is just ridiculous. I can’t spell cat half the time, but I can fire numbers out left and right, please don’t judge my grammar. If you are in my Facebook group or on my email list or in my description boxes, please just leave my grammar alone and my spelling alone. But my math, I can help you with that.
Clara:
That’s what matters in our community. Right?
Casey:
Yeah numbers. If you don’t know your numbers, you don’t know your business. <Laugh>
Clara:
Good. That’s right. That’s right. Casey. Anything you wanna add as a message from you to our audience, please?
Casey:
I do. And this is great. Like all the people that I know that are either gonna listen to this or may find this on the internet. I know things seem kind of bad right now in the economy in the world in business, things are slow. Things are expensive. Things are costing more money, all this negative stuff, but what goes down always comes up. So my answer and the one sentence I have right now is to stick with it a hundred percent stick with it. And you will reap the benefits of sticking with it and not giving up right now. Take my first word. Tenacious. Just keep fighting. Work harder than you ever have. And you won’t have to work as hard later because trust me, it’s going to come back up. Things are gonna come back. The economy’s gonna come back. Prices are gonna come down at least in some stuff. And you’re gonna have an opportunity every time. Something like this happens, the people on the other end make all the money. So keep that in mind.
Clara:
Yeah. That’s right. Because eCommerce is big enough for all of us and all of us to our audience that is listening. If you invest in crypto and real estate, you will see it gets so expensive. So volatile eCommerce, less risk minimal entry point. And it’s available to all of us. Thank you, Casey.
Doug:
Yeah. Thank you so much, Casey. One quick thing that I was thinking about. Yeah. And when you were talking about the adjectives, so every time I’ve seen you face to face and we’ve interacted, you’re always smiling. <Laugh> noticed that you’ve always got a smile.
Casey:
Let me, let me tell you why, this is an easy answer. So when I’m no, the whole community knows this. So when you’re like right now, we’re sitting behind a computer screen. I’m in my office. I’ve been here all day. I’ve been when we get together, like whether it was Open or at Reseller Remix, which will be back in Vegas again in October tickets, go on sale shameless plug again for the Reseller Remix next week.
Doug:
Yep. July 1st,
Casey:
July 1st, next week. So if you are interested, that’s a week from today, I’ll make sure everybody in my community, make sure they do support Katy and Vikki and List Perfectly will be there. So but yeah, the point is we get together and that’s why I smile because I talk to these people, Doug and Clara and Amanda from behind a computer screen. Yeah. And we get to see each other once a year. And so when we get to see each other, it’s like, yes, like we are so happy, like to get out of my office and out of my hole and, and get out and get together with everyone. Yeah. It’s amazing. And, I do really love what I do. I love this. I love social media. I love reselling. I love it all. And so to be around other people that are involved in it and do it is yeah, it’s amazing. Like why else would, I would, I would, if I didn’t have the money to come, I would save my money all year just to make that trip.
Doug:
But yeah. And thank you so much for taking the time. I really enjoyed this chat and you know, obviously learned some more about you, but thanks so much.
Casey:
Thank you, Doug and Clara, and tell Amanda, thank you. And it was, this was awesome. I haven’t got to do one of these in a while, so thank you for having me. It’s amazing.
Clara:
Thank you Casey for your time and thank you community for listening. This is Casey AKA Rockstar Flipper.
Doug:
And we’ll include all your links in the show notes. So those that don’t know they can find you, but I think that’s pretty hard not to know who Casey is.
Casey:
Thank you.
Doug:
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